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Old 02-09-2008, 03:02 AM
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Re: What Do You Drive?


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Originally Posted by shazaam View Post
...2.8l? Never heard of one, 3.8 yes. And why instead of dropping so much into the avenger...just get something else? I'd rather have a car I liked than have one I don't and attempt to make it nice/so I like it. What kinda car you have before the avenger anyways?
And no, I love my lesabre, just wish the engine was more efficient :P Roomy and comfy as, well I love the space. Was the lockup cause by the intake manifold? Cause yea, the GM were idiots and used a plastic manifold...bad stuff happened and caused the leak of coolant into the intake area lol. Luckily that hasn't happened to me.
Finger was off a key. 3.8L is correct. The 2.8L was optional in the Century and the Cutlass... a tad different from the LeSabre. Vapor lock problems in those cars was blamed on faulty fuel pumps, but I doubt that's really the culprit.

Why upgrade instead of scrap? Because I see potential in things that most people don't. It's always been part of my job as a designer to pick out positives and work with what I have. Truthfully I can't think of another car that would make me as happy as the Avenger does. For what I need, it's perfect. The back seat is humongus, as is the trunk. There's plenty of head room, and foot room for both the driver and passenger. The only things that made me not like it were the openness of the cabin (it felt very plain, and too tall; like a small truck cab almost), turning radius (awful, but doable), the seatbelts (not quite the best design, and also not very long), and the lack of torque (very slow take offs, and low gear accelleration). The car is great, it just lacks a powerful motor. It's the same identical motor out of the Mitsubishi Eclipse RS of the same year, so it's doggy and blah without a turbo (Hence they made a turbo Eclipse, and a turbo Avenger). Granted the GS-T and GSX were based off the 4g63 motor, and the RS has the 420a motor. The difference is that the 4g63 was the heir to the DSM era and people were drawn to that. Hey, at least my 420a doesn't crankwalk every other week, lol. They're both 2.0L motors that produce about 140hp (136hp in the 4g63, 140hp in the 420a), it just so happens that Mitsu didn't want to keep using the Chrysler engine for their faster models (bad for business).

I might have a lot of money into it, but most of it is stereo and repairs. Why get another used car? You're just buying into new problems. at least if I keep fixing my Venge I know what's not been replaced yet. I decided to buy the Avenger when my Probe GT died because the amount of work and cash it would have taken for me to enjoy the car would have been twice as much as the Avenger. My GT was already a fast car, but I'd have sunk the same amount of cash into the appearance and sound system as I am in the Venge.

Overall It's gratifying to pull up next to someone at a light that sees your car and thinks they know exactly what you've got under the hood... Then you leave them stunned with their mouth open, wondering what the hell just happened.
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