[Jazz_Rock_Feel]

Others may disagree, but, in my experience- having owned a planet z ride as well as crash- they Are to good to be true. I find they have simular quality to the sabian B8's. They have a fairly thin sound- they are neither the strongest sounding or the the strongest built cymbals, maybe, a good starting point for a beginner on a budget.

Maybe your on a budget- but want something a little richer, a little more complex? In the past I have been able to find wuhan cymbals at great price- $45 for a crash- and they sound fantastic!