[PearlVSX]

Actually, If you look at the cymbals closely.. underneath the goth costumery, they are ZHTs; which in my experience are pretty righteous sounding pies. Of all the sheet bronze entry level/budget cymbals from the big 3, the ZHT (read; Zildjian High Tin = B12) have the warmest, most musical sound of them all IMHO. It's just when Zildjian, to appease the death metal market, decided that a coat of rustoleum would sell a few more cymbals- created a clanging, muted fart of a cymbal. They were disco'd in what?? A year or less!?!?