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12-21-2006, 09:41 PM
|  | Level 1 - Single Stroke Roll | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ohio
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zildjian or paiste
i'm looking into some new cymbals and have narrowed it down to some zildjian k's or some paiste sigs. Could someone explain the difference in sound and what would be the best, in general for funk, rock, and a little blues and jam band type stuff. | |
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12-21-2006, 09:55 PM
|  | Level 4 - Multiple Bounce Roll | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Jersey
Posts: 54
| | | I haven't played either but I would say the best way to tell is to go to a music shop and play each, then decide which is best for your type of music. |
02-23-2007, 03:05 AM
|  | Level 9 - Seven Stroke Roll | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southland New Zealand
Posts: 235
| | | Good advice ekdrummer, try them out. The k's are darker and the signatures have more shimmer, but i would consider both good all purpose cymbals, depends entirely on your circumstance, taste and preference. Often i hear a cymbal sound live or on a recording and use that as a ball park when i find out what it was. Most drummers are brand orientated, myself i go for what my ears and gut tells me, so my cymbal set is a mixture. |
05-01-2007, 12:27 AM
|  | Level 0 - Pick up the sticks! | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cuernavaca, Mexico
Posts: 1
| | Neither Zildjian nor Paiste. Go Sabian... Try out the AAX or HHX series if your budget allows it; they have all the Cymbals you need for the kind of music you play. For blues and jammin', I highly recommend Sabian's 20" Hand Hammered Classic Ride, you won't regret it, believe me! But do follow Ekdrummer's advice: go to your local store and try them out... |
05-01-2007, 03:56 AM
| | Level 9 - Seven Stroke Roll | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southland New Zealand
Posts: 235
| | AAX are closer to Signatures and HH to K's depending on model of course. Meinl are making some good quality cymbals now too, and worth checking out if there is an opportunity.
Best to try them, so many choices. |
05-02-2007, 12:59 PM
|  | Level 8 - Six Stroke Roll | | Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 219
| | Its impossible to distinguish at the level of K and Sig in sonic quality. Both have unique characters and inherent traits. I prefer Paiste Sigs because they are the most versatile in all aspects from death metal to jazz, live to studio. They appeal to me and once players who try them out usually agree. Its hard to describe the difference but an attempt would be this beautiful sound that creates a feeling of wanting to use them a lot.The K's just don't have that special sound.
To add. You don't mount a cymbal like this on average stands, to appreciate the cymbal it needs to be mounted on the equivalent quality hardware to do them glory.... |
05-04-2007, 06:38 PM
|  | Level 17 - Double Paradiddle | | Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 839
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Originally Posted by givemethebeat  Its impossible to distinguish at the level of K and Sig in sonic quality. Both have unique characters and inherent traits. I prefer Paiste Sigs because they are the most versatile in all aspects from death metal to jazz, live to studio. They appeal to me and once players who try them out usually agree. Its hard to describe the difference but an attempt would be this beautiful sound that creates a feeling of wanting to use them a lot.The K's just don't have that special sound.
To add. You don't mount a cymbal like this on average stands, to appreciate the cymbal it needs to be mounted on the equivalent quality hardware to do them glory.... | Call me crazy, but I like K custons 16" dark what ever, belive me I play JAZZ, rock, DEATHMETAL, blues,(homefuly soon) Rockabilly, Punk, and Glam,I mostly play AAX(because im in the METAL stage, so that might not mean you)so i would recomend Sigs for METAL, but for allaround what your playing Hand Hammered(phil collins uses that kind) or in Ziljian case Ks or even A custom.  |
06-07-2007, 08:58 PM
|  | Level 2 - Single Stroke Four | | Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 27
| | | In the end, it is what YOU,the player likes to hear and feel,because cymbals are such a personal instrument. |
06-08-2007, 06:33 PM
| | Level 17 - Double Paradiddle | | Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 839
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Originally Posted by PHIL2007 In the end, it is what YOU,the player likes to hear and feel,because cymbals are such a personal instrument. | You have onlyposted 15 times(the one im quoteing), how poetic you sound wise beyond your years. |
06-08-2007, 07:08 PM
| | Level 2 - Single Stroke Four | | Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 27
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Originally Posted by guss You have onlyposted 15 times(the one im quoteing), how poetic you sound wise beyond your years. | My friend,it is not how many post a drummer makes on the forum that makes him a seasoned player,but how many years that player has played his/her instrument,Believe me, i have played with some of the best musicians out there and am in no means a slouch on the drum kit.
I was taught by the late session ace Larrie Londin and have been instructed by percussionist Richie Gajate Garcia,i have won regional drum competitions here in my state, if i ever get the time,i will post a vid of me playing just to prove my point,and last i started playing when i was 8 and i am 40 now,so that gives you an idea of how long i have been doing this.  
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