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Old 02-23-2007, 05:46 PM
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cymbal repair


so i cracked my zildjian 21" sweet ride, it goes parralel with the edge of the cymbal, about an inch, maybe an inch and a half in, and its about 6 inches long. is there anyway i could get the cymbal lathed down to like 19 or 19.5 inches (i have to see exactly where it is)? I know the sound will change, but theoretically will this keep the cymbal at least playable for a little while longer? and finally where would i go, if this is even possible, to get this done?

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Old 02-24-2007, 04:36 AM
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Any machining would involve turning it on a lathe. You could probably get this done at a machine shop. At 19 inches I think it would make a great power/thrash ride.

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Old 02-24-2007, 05:03 AM
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It can be done. The only problem being that the cymbal is designed with weight and diameter in mind giving the body of the cymbal. The sound is due to that body or weight. Cutting back cymbals can work, the sound is random though. I have tried it a few times and never been happy with the end result, they seem to turn out a dead.

I have one here and would love to know your results as this might make a nice splash....
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Old 02-24-2007, 11:59 AM
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i'll call some machine shops and see if anyone wants to take a look. i measure last night and the crack is about a little less then an inch from the edge, so i would probably go to 19 just to be safe.

and damn, that cymbal is quite f-ed up. i dunno if lathing that down to a splash will work, it might work, it might sound like just a bell though, heh, most expensive zil-bel ever!

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Old 03-03-2007, 12:09 AM
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While your at the shop with it, you might ask if they could just cut out that cracked section of the cymbal first. I think it's Sabian that makes some octagon
shaped cymbals. At any rate--It couldn' hoit!! I've also seen cymbals that have had this done to them. The don't look as "purty", but it may retain the sound you like. Couldn't hurt to ask?????

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Old 03-03-2007, 10:55 AM
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well for now i'm just using the cymbal as is, the crack isn't as big as i thought, i think its only 4 inches long, so its fine for now. but if it gets any bigger i'm immediatly gonna do something about it.

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Old 03-03-2007, 11:00 AM
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also does anyone know the type of epoxy they are talking about in the cymbal repair article? just something like jb weld or a do they want something specific?

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Old 03-03-2007, 01:11 PM
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AJChxc; If the crack isn't too long as you say, how about trying this. Just drill a small (1/8") hole where the crack ends. That will absolutely stop it from going any further. Plus it still leaves you all the other options that you may want to try. At least the crack won't spread further.

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Old 03-04-2007, 10:10 PM
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AJChxc; If the crack isn't too long as you say, how about trying this. Just drill a small (1/8") hole where the crack ends. That will absolutely stop it from going any further. Plus it still leaves you all the other options that you may want to try. At least the crack won't spread further.
This method is hit or miss.I had tried it numerous times and not every time does it work.In the long run about half would continue to crack beyond the drilled hole.It does greatly increase the life of a cymbal after cracking though.Here is a pic of one of them that didn't last long.The cracks actually progressed beyond the drilled holes twice on this cymbal.A 375th Anniv. Zildjian AMedThinCrash.Etched with Armand Zidjians signature.You can see a bit of the etching in the 1st pic.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46...tch/holes2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46...itch/holes.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46...tch/holes3.jpg

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Old 03-04-2007, 10:29 PM
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cracked cymbal


Man--That's a shame on such a collectible cymbal. I realize that a crack that follows the lathing AROUND the cymbal would be harder to stop than one that points at the bell. Especially if it is a crash cymbal. Generally you don't pound the edge on a ride cymbal & may be able to keep the crack to the back side from where you are playing on it.

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