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Old 07-26-2009, 04:20 PM
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Re: your most regretful cymbal purchase?


Fairly new to drumming, I started at a late age with the guitar, after raising two sons, a divorce, etc,etc...(Life story-boring)
After 18 months with a daily practice set of 1 to 2 hours with my guitars, I quietly suggested to my wife that I might like to try the drums. After the success with the guitar(s), she said "Why not," much to my amazement.
I looked and looked, but I was not ready to give up over $1000 for a decent kit/hardware/cymbals when I had not hit the first snare nor stomped the first hi-hat.
However, I do haunt pawn shops, looking for that next guitar. My wife and I went into one of our favorites, and there was an absolute mint, complete set of Yamaha Rydeens, with all hardware, Rydeen cymbals made by Paiste, even the throne, for a lousy $329. The blue wrap was still on the pedals, and I don't think there was a mark on the toms at all. The Paiste cymbals looked like they had just come out of the box. Finish just about mint. Father-son team had walked in that morning and the Father said - "He doesn't like drums, how much will you give me?"
I walked in 4 hours later and loaded it all in my truck.
The Paiste Rydeens held me for about three weeks. I wanted more.
My first purchase was an add on mount and a Wuhan 12" China - total cost, $48.
Let me just say that the Wuhan is NOT on my kit these days. It certainly has it's place, but it sounds like the typical trash can lid. Crash, no sustain, just flat out hard on the ears. No tone. You do get what you pay for. I spent some time working in Shanghai, and I can see poor Chinese people pounding out these things for chump change, ruining their ears. What a piece of s%#t!!!
My second purchase was Rototoms, used, and a cowbell. So cool! Like buying congos without the footprint. I love used stores, and here in Southeastern Tennessee we have a LOT of wannabe musicians who give up, hence a lot of good equipment can be bought for WAY less than new.
Then I walked into GC and found a Paiste 18" Crash/Ride for $101 new and thought that was a good deal. It's fine, but actually I like the copper color better than the sound.
Forget that kind of money, No more. From now on I buy used. Cymbals age, or so I am told. If so, why should I suffer through the aging process? And on top of that, pay the new price? So back to the used stores I went.
Next was three cymbals I picked up at a local used store for $40 each. A little 12" Sabian XS Splash, (Absolutely wonderful cymbal), A Sabian B8 18" Ride, (OK, little too tonal for me with way too much sustain - I understand why people tire of the B8 line), and my first Meinl Meteor 18" Crash. Again, even with the tarnish, the Meteor was like stepping back into a Led Zepplin concert. I went back two days later becaue I knew he had another Meteor. It turned out to be an 18" Crash/Ride, very close to the first, but with distinct differences in tone. Sustain was about the same, and in the same crappy finish. $30 out the door, 30 minutes with Brasso and some steel wool in my shop and it looks pretty cool with some remaining tarnish AND fully aged. So now I have a lot of different tones with my cymbals, and I am eyeing my hi-hat Rydeens, because that same dealer had a Meteor Hi-hat set. We'll see. I actually kind of like what Paiste did with the Rydeen Hi-hats. I probably will keep them,
So now you guys know a lot more about my little kit, and how I purchase. There are ALWAYS guys out there giving up, upgrading, losing their jobs, whatever. Their equipment goes on the used heap and it can be yours for WAY less than new, even up to 70-80% off new. A crappy looking floor tom can look new with a $12 new head and some paste wax. I will almost NEVER buy new, save for stands and sticks.

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Old 08-02-2009, 09:38 AM
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Re: your most regretful cymbal purchase?


I wouldn't say most regretful but when I first bought my drum set I bought a Planet Z pack instead of the ZBT's that were available. At the time they were great cymbals but after I bought my A's,Z's and K's I tried them and damn... there terrible. I should of bought better cymbals but oh well
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:17 PM
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Re: your most regretful cymbal purchase?


worst 1 definately my paiste 101 hi hats!
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Old 12-26-2009, 01:50 PM
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Re: your most regretful cymbal purchase?


Mine was a paiste 302 20" ride, it came with my first drumset and it kind of sounded like hiting a music stand with a little more sustain and more brightness. For pro level cymbals it was a 14" z custom hats. I got them at a pawn shop for $120 and thought i liked them but they just don't respond because they are too thick.
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Old 12-26-2009, 05:24 PM
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Re: your most regretful cymbal purchase?


HAHAHA you think YOU have it bad. I have a friend who has no name cymbals, conical shaped, beaten up. Very thin metal, I don't even know what type. One decent hit, you'll bend it completely outta shape. Sounds like NOTHING you have EVER heard. LOL! Not like a cymbal, more like a wodden spoon hitting a pot. That is a literal description.
Thanks for your time. Good luck with new cymbals
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Old 01-20-2010, 09:57 PM
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Re: your most regretful cymbal purchase?


mine would have to be "percussion plus" lolololol it was like hitting a peace of tin foil
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:36 PM
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Re: your most regretful cymbal purchase?


I bought some B8's (seperatly of course) i thought they were a great deal... only about $80 per cymbal and they are above what i expected to get out of them, they have great feedback, great sounds. not perfect at all but i thought it was a good buy
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:26 PM
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Re: your most regretful cymbal purchase?


Well I bought those Pitch blacks... Joking

Most likely if any, ZXT Titanium medium ride, though I don't regret any choice.
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Old 03-27-2010, 03:13 PM
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Re: your most regretful cymbal purchase?


I wanted to start a thread about this but maybe ill get some feedback. Ive purchased a Zildjian cymbal for the last time. I fell in love with the sound of the 21'' special dry ride (K) this is from youtube listening. I get the cymbal from a large New York drum shop and its nothing like any of the many ive heard from mp3 recordings. its way to trashy, not near as clean as what ive been listening to.

I know i can sell this so i ordered a 21'' Paiste mark1 dark energy and this cymbal sounds near identical to what ive heard on youtube, it sounds like i WANTED the special dry cymbal to sound. The Paiste is beautiful sounding and im ecstatic. I went through this same thing with the purchase of some zildjian A-customs. What is it with me that im always disappointed with anything zildjian. Are my ears simply tuned to Paiste and i cant accept anything less?. My latest regret is the purchase of my 21'' zildjian K series special dry ride.
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Old 03-27-2010, 05:30 PM
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Re: your most regretful cymbal purchase?


I think your problem is just that no two cymbals are alike! I listened to 5 sabian aaxplosion crashes and none of them sounded the same.
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