Hi guys thank you for your kind remarks!
But, I am by no means an expert on cymbals, it is just that I have a few years of playing them under my belt
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It is such a personal thing cymbals, they are also the one component that drummers most disagree on.
Just to come back to one remark in the threads, Quote "the further away (up) from B8 the better the cymbals "
I find that very untrue. The
paiste Alpha's AND the 2002 series are particular good cymbals.
The Alpha's in my humble opninoin cannot be beaten for value, meaning sound quality for a given price, and they also look gorgious!!
The 2002 line, just superb. If I had to start from scratch I would have only 2002 cymbals.
Both lines are made from B8 bronze.
Now I am on the subject the following might interst you.
The grade of bronze is one thing, but it is what has been done with it that counts like tempering, lathing etc.
TEMPERING:
Generally a process of deciding the hardness of the alloys over strength and brittelness.
This is achieved by a fierce heating cycle after which ultra quick cooling takes place.
The cooling is sometimes called quencing. Often it is performed by just dunking in water, but also by exposing the cymbals to a process like a fire extinguisher, like a fierce frost. (Co2 snow)
LATHING:
Lathing has an enormous effect on the cymbals. Generally it is used to "thin-out" the cymbals from the bell area towards the perimeter.
Than there can be smooth lacing or "worked-up lacing with a very groovy texture or an almost "frothy" lathing.
The frothy lathing like on my
Paiste 16" 2002 full crash just about doubles the surface area of the cymbals!
Imagine what an effect that has on the sound!
HAMMERING:
Through this process the hammering is compressing the bronze, a bit like pressing your fingers in Pizza dough, if you know what I mean.
It also makes the cymbal to "grow "wider, just like the Pizza's
This process alone can change the process the properties of the alloys, whatever grade bronze is used!
Cymbal Manufacturers will never tell you what they exactly use for alloys, like the addition of silver, nickel, sulphur, phosphor etc. to their mixtures.
In the middle ages the Alchemists were seen as "spooky" scientist, almost out of reach, like an obscure, occult science.
Paiste is not saying anything about their Signature bronze, you will never know.
Aren't the cymbals most fascinating items, ha-ha-
Anyhow that my five cents to this subject,
Cheers and happy drumming,
Harry
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