[Tainojim]

Pickles go great with a pastrami or corned beef sandwiches.

[butter]

ill check out the alphas again, tried them before, but that was like 2 years ago when i didnt have taste in cymbals

i dont like pickles either haha. and ive never had pastrami.

[Infero Exicution]

I always have Pastrami.
They redesigned the Alphas since then Butter.
They made them Semi-pro cymbals. They are a little more expensive than Xs20's.
About $10 more. They are now hand hammered and hand lathed. They are really
good recording/stage cymbals too. They have really big bells too.
STAY AWAY FROM THE BLACK ALPHAS. They are terrible!!!

[butter]

haha yea ive heard about black alphas, along with the joey jordison alphas, and the zildjian pitch blacks. i hate to even see them in music stores, theyre a disgrace to cymbals.

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Wouldn't it be weird to have someone elses name on your cymbals if you were famous?
I don't know how they sell those. That extra coating of black just makes the
cymbal thicker. And lower quality. Terrible, terrible, terrible.

[butter]

yea id never buy anything with someone else's name on it, besides maybe sticks, but thats it.
i guess they sell them by just making them sound good to people that are new to drumming and dont realize how bad they are. they pretty much just cheat the beginners.

[Infero Exicution]

We are past that point.
Maybe because soo many new drummers are into metal and Joey Jordison,
they think, Oh Joey is an amazing drummer, these cymbals must be amazing too!
Oh look, they are expensive! Alphas are cheaper, and WAY better, kids.
Same here. Sticks are completely fine to have a signature.
by the way, Alpha series has medium crashes, rock crashes, and thin crashes.
They all have different sizes, and are all hand hammered. Check them out on youtube.com.