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Doubles strokes
Doubles strokes
Published by lolodrums
05-22-2009
Doubles strokes

I play quite a long time and still not good at doubles. Let me tell u the way I execute doubles...I throw the stick into the head on the 1sr stroke and force a second with the fingers . I found that I use to choke too much the stick so i have a sloppy double .
But if I try to have a more OPEN roll i tend to loose control....I try to use the rebound as much is possible but couldn't find still the balance among control , speed & volume .
A drum teacher I had , insisted on using wrists almost 100%.... I can do that till some extent(speed) then rebound needed .
I looked the Moeller method...which i found kind of complicated .
So , does anybody around want to share any simple , if possible , technique to play doubles ?

Thanks .

PD: sorry about the English .
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By Ashlyspice1 on 09-24-2009, 08:41 AM
Re: Doubles strokes

Hi,
Try accenting the 2nd stroke of each double
rR lL and
lL rR ( the capitals being the accented note ) in as many diferent techniques as you can master
example: Moeller stroke, Free stroke , etc in french and German grip.
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By zerolatency on 02-24-2011, 12:56 AM
Re: Doubles strokes

I've found that simply pulling the second stroke with your fingers works just fine for me. Downstroke, then on the upstroke pulling the stick with the fingers and repeat.
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By Buddy on 02-24-2011, 12:39 PM
Re: Doubles strokes

hey are you using the front fulcrum to much? Front fulcrum= (Index finger and Thumb) If your onching tohard try using your back fulcrum more (Back fulcrum= middle/ring finger and thumbish area haha) Try to feel all your fingers touching the stick.

Also are you playing this pattern rrllrrllrrllrrllrrllrrll? If your playing that pattern fast it becomes diddles.(Same thing just faster) If so then you probly should use less wrist. At a certain point it turns into forearm, and you use very little wrist. BUt when it's slower you should use wrist.

One more thing. This is what got me to be able to do them. Play your didles into a pillow. When you can do them into a pillow perfectly then you can play them on a drum. Play hem the EXACT same way. It works man
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By jazzman01 on 07-01-2011, 07:20 AM
Re: Doubles strokes

Hi there,

Try this exercise using the fingers; starting with the right hand do one triplet exercise per hand all the way up to ten and then two per hand all the way up to ten. The next step will be three per hand all the way up to ten which will put you into three four time and then four per hand all the way up to ten. This will exercise the fingers and allow you to develop more control while strengthening them; I got this from the Dave Weckl Back to basics video so I suggest you check it out. As for your doubles, start slowly by using more of your wrist and then as you get faster, your fingers. I use a bounce and catch technique e.g throw the stick down and catch it as it comes back up; start with a metronome at a slow tempo around 70 BPM and time yourself for 5 mins while trying to keep in time with the metronome. Gradually increase your speed and as you get faster, use the fingers more then try playing at different dynamic levels using your wrists for louder playing together with your fingers.

Doubles are more difficult to execute so practice every day and don't expect quick results; in time you'll get it,

Hope this helps,

Jazzman01
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By slingerland59 on 07-01-2011, 01:21 PM
Re: Doubles strokes

The trick is to play in a super relaxed way. If you're choking too much then that means your grip is too tight and forced. You definitely do not use wrists exclusively for both strokes, as the others have described. The secret is to learn how to control the bounce and it's easier to practice at low volumes until you get the technique and speed right.

I practice on a Billy Gladstone black rubber pad because it forces you to work a little harder but still gives a nice bounce and it's quiet so you can play for a long time and not drive others crazy.

Do you know the shuffle beat? I find it helps to play a shuffle with one hand for a while and then with the other hand. That way of playing doubles forces you to do the correct finger action. Then when you go back to doing alternating, even double strokes the fingers will work better for you.
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By jazzman01 on 07-01-2011, 03:38 PM
Re: Doubles strokes

Yes, the secret is to keep relaxed and don't tense. Start at low volume first and use your fingers to bounce and catch. Use a combination of wrist and fingers and not wrist entirely
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