[xceler8rx]

Two questions:

1. anybody know what the three toms are tuned to? (what notes?)

2. what were ginger bakers toms tuned to? (what notes?)

[guss]

there is no real tuneing notes(my 13 tom is lower then my 14") its up to you. Ginger Baker Which kit? plastic one? ok i dont know, i have a bad problem, i lesten to Eric Clapton not Cream(tune them how you want).

[shazaam]

Yup, tune how you feel Nice tool is the drum dial but yea, like guss said just tuen to what you think sounds good/works for you. I don't know any drummers personally that tune to a specific not just use their ears cause when you gig your toms'll sound different in different environments.

[mouse]

5 semitones or a fourth interval between drums helps give them their own voice.

Try tom 1 batter head D resonant G

tom 2 batter head A resonant D


Floor tom batter head E resonant A

This gives some sort of ballpark to where you can tune as others have suggested by listening.
You can then alter top head pitches higher, lower or same as the resonant head, which is adjusted to control the amount of sustain required to suit your ears, and as suggested the environment.
Turning just one lug up or down after the drum heads are even will bend the pitch a bit and can be effective to produce a different sound.

Remember to listen to your drums from out front to see what they sound like from there - somehow.

Often tuning in different venues pre -gig can be a judgmental one, you should consider hopefully the room will full up with people and that is going to affect the out front sound (un miked).
Not too critical though, iv'e never ever had anyone say i had a bad drum sound, and generally leave them as tuned from gig to gig (lazy bugger), they probally wouldn't know anyway, only a drummer would. Long as they are tuned evenly with good heads and bearing edges, each drums within it's tuning range and the drums are tuneful and complimentary to each other, i get by without too much fiddling.

Question two. Probally only one that knows would have been his drum tech , you can always ask him http://www.ginger-baker.com/

[guss]

Originally Posted by mouse

5 semitones or a fourth interval between drums helps give them their own voice.

Try tom 1 batter head D resonant G

tom 2 batter head A resonant D


Floor tom batter head E resonant A

This gives some sort of ballpark to where you can tune as others have suggested by listening.
You can then alter top head pitches higher, lower or same as the resonant head, which is adjusted to control the amount of sustain required to suit your ears, and as suggested the environment.
Turning just one lug up or down after the drum heads are even will bend the pitch a bit and can be effective to produce a different sound.

Remember to listen to your drums from out front to see what they sound like from there - somehow.

Often tuning in different venues pre -gig can be a judgmental one, you should consider hopefully the room will full up with people and that is going to affect the out front sound (un miked).
Not too critical though, iv'e never ever had anyone say i had a bad drum sound, and generally leave them as tuned from gig to gig (lazy bugger), they probally wouldn't know anyway, only a drummer would. Long as they are tuned evenly with good heads and bearing edges, each drums within it's tuning range and the drums are tuneful and complimentary to each other, i get by without too much fiddling.

Question two. Probally only one that knows would have been his drum tech , you can always ask him http://www.ginger-baker.com/

WOW mouse did you make that up(not the G-Bstuff)?

[gurlzdrumhard]

tune your lowest tom first. then tune middle tom (for a 5-piece set). lastly, tune smallest tom. try to tune to a "do-re-me" kind of sound, but it's more important to tune to what the drum sounds best at. keep in mind that there wont be a huge note difference between a 12" tom and a 13" tom. but you can tune the 12" on the high side and the 13" on the low side for more of a note difference. it is my experience that unless you are recording in a studio forget trying to tune the drums to a specific note. just tune them to sound the best they can given shell diameter, shell depth and type of heads used.
happy drumming!!

[ddrummer]

I cheat big time and use my Drum dial...for me I find on MOST sets using Remo or Attack heads 70 for the bass and toms and 85 to 90 for the snare gets an awesome sound.

Each kit is different but that usually works by tuning with the Drum dial You always know what Your kit sounds best at and if You break a head can immediately replace it SOUNDLESSLY .

	Attack Drumheads Shop for Attack drum heads at Musician's Friend

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[Remotecontact]

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[Patknives]

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