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Old 11-11-2007, 03:46 AM
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Looking for a particular sound...


I'm looking for a particular set of heads. I want tom heads that are bright, have a short sustain, and have a harder feel than most.

I love doing me some double stroke rolls, but with the heads I have now, the rolls aren't very clear at all. It's very muddy, and I wish the heads could have more rebound.

And a bright sounding head just fits the way I play. Now I need a hard surfaced head with a short sustain.

Something very articulate.

Any opinions?

I'm also looking for a very warm, soft, but bold sound for my bass drum. I want something that's more of a medium sustain, but very low and articulate. Now that's a tricky combo.

Any help there?

I wasn't going to go into snare, but I might as well kill three birds with one stone this time. I'm looking for a light, crisp, very wet sound. I want it to sound very crisp. Something where each note is short in sustain.

Same with the toms. I want a short sustain and a bright, crisp sound to bring out rolls and fast singles.

I know tuning plays a big role, but I need to start with the right heads.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:46 AM
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Re: Looking for a particular sound...


for toms you should def. try g1 coated.as for your bass drum you should try the evans EMAD coated. thats the one taht looked the best for what you are looking for. SNare hit up EC1 coated. well i hope you get a chance to look at these. or u can even go to the evans website and look for wat you are looking for.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:10 PM
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Re: Looking for a particular sound...


In the interest of short sustain on your toms I'd recomend evans g2 or g2 coated. They still have good attack and rebound and a tad warmer.
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:53 PM
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Re: Looking for a particular sound...


I agree with skinslapper. If you want pull of some double strokes your going to need some dense double ply heads, I would try Remo Pinstripes or Emperors on the toms. I use Emperors and tune low to med, I don't get a lot of bounce. So Pinstripes might be the way to go. As a reference point what kind of heads are you using now?
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:20 PM
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Re: Looking for a particular sound...


I say go with Ambassador X. They feel kind of harder than double ply heads (to me) and if they are tuned right then will have a low sustain.
As for the bass drum I would recommend a coated Powerstroke 3.
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Old 10-15-2010, 12:29 PM
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Re: Looking for a particular sound...


I would go with a g2 coated for a harder sound. For a more wet effect you might want G2 clears. Our school uses them. Very nice
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:58 AM
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Re: Looking for a particular sound...


As for the crisp sounding snare I would advocate the clear Evans hydraulic, tuned excruceatingly tight. I know that hydraulics are known as cheater heads, but they produce an amazingly tight snare sound when tuned right.
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Old 10-17-2010, 01:08 PM
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Re: Looking for a particular sound...


I would say evens hydralics, you can get them tuned pretty tight and they still sound pretty good on toms. Also they are great for snares, I was surprised considering they are tom heads but it has been the best snare head I've had!
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Old 10-19-2010, 10:21 AM
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Question Re: Looking for a particular sound...


I would suggest avoiding Hydraulics and Pinstripes. Those are on the opposite end of the tonal spectrum you're trying to achieve. I know what kind of sound/feel you're trying to get. I'm sure I can help you to identify the 2 or 3 models of heads most likely to help you get the playability and response you're after.

But first things first: (Insert Jerry Maguire Quote here...) "Help me... Help you!"
In order to give you useful advice or recommend drum heads that will best meet your performance criteria, I'll need some more information from you.

What kind of drums do you play?
What are the sizes of drums?
What are shells made of?
How many ply's?
What's shell thickness?
Wrapped or Lacquered?
What are lugs made of?
Solid or Split lugs?
What kind of hoops are on them? (Cast/Tri-Flange/Wood?)
And finally... What drumsticks do you normally use? (Make/Model/Tip-type?)

Honestly, All these things matter quite a bit. You're desired performance parameters are quite specific. So, in order to get the best result, the heads will need to work in harmony with your drum-set's inherent tonal characteristics. With such narrow and precisely defined sound/feel/resonance/timbre requirements, it's impossible to offer you advise that you should consider as valid or knowledgeable.

If your kit is a commonly available model by one of the major Drum companies, just let me know the make and model, and don't worry about all those specific questions. Spec sheets for drums are easy to find. But it's important. A 6-ply 13mm Mahogany drum with solid-lugs and Tri-Flange hoops, will NOT react even close to the same way an 11-ply 9mm Birch drum with split lugs and cast hoops will, from a sonic perspective. Either could be made to suit your demands, but only by using vastly different types of drums heads.
(That's never going to be towards Hydraulics or Pinstripes though... They're both just tone-dead garbage that is made for, and marketed to: Lazy drummers, bad Engineers, Heavy-Hitting Bashers, and Amateurs lacking the skills and talent needed to voice the instrument properly. The only Pinstripe I own is used as my dog's food dish.)

So... Help me - Help you!!! Let me know what you play on and with, and I'll try to steer you in the right direction.
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Old 10-19-2010, 11:04 PM
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Re: Looking for a particular sound...


I agree with theyuckyduck about knowing what type of kit that you use and how important that is, but I have gotten and seen great results with EVAN's hydraulics. They have a very unique sound and even if it may not be for everyone some very nice sounding drums can be achieved with them.
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