[The Rev]

Hey guys, I thought I'd go down to the music store and buy a drum head, they had a sale on Remo heads so I bought a Remo Embassador drum head, I got home, and put it on my 13" ( using it as a batter head and Evans G1 for Resohead ) and the overtones were crazy! anyone have any idea to get rid of the overtones? I heard of moongels or E rings, and if i do go and buy those, how much would it affect the overtones? alot? little?

Cheers,
The Rev

[butter]

if you put a flanged hoop on the tom of your drum and a die-cast hoop on the bottom, your overtones will be reduced a bit.
also, like you said, moongels and rings will help.
experiment with different tunings on each head. trouble for a couple weeks with my high tom and tuned my reso head tight and my batter head loose to get a good sound without overtones.

[The Rev]

So far my Evans G1 is tuned tight, and the Ambassador is tuned im guessing to the mid range level, but would it be safe to put an E ring and moongel(s) on it at the same time? or would it choke?

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[butter]

i dont think you need both rings and gel. you could put rings on the batter and then some gel on the reso if you want. the only problem i can think of for using both at the same time is that you would take away room on your head where you might hit the gel or something.

what do you mean by "choke"?

also, do you have a drum dial? are you experienced at tuning your drums? drumdials really help you get a consistent tension all across the head.

[The Rev]

Such as not getting any tone at all, or I think its called being Dry

[butter]

oh okay! ya dead or dry is a common term for it. i guess choke works, too, ive just never heard it.

as for whether you would get a dead sound from it by using both rings and gel, i dont know, ive never used rings. you can try it and see. if you do post about it. alot of tuning problems could be solved

[Der Trommler]

I don't recall if the Embassador head is a single ply head, but if it is that is probably where the overtone is coming from. If the batter and resonant have the same tensioning to them you will get a ton of ring that way too.

What kind of head did you take off?

[Buddy]

I personally like rings. I think that they work very well and are easy to use. But gel allows you to choose the amount of tunning you want. soooo. What i did was played with a bunch of different rings that my friends used and settled for one.

[drumn00b]

If you mean overtone, as in two notes, just tune the reso head and the batter head to the same note . If it's resonance, then gels or rings work. Good luck