Double Stroke on the pedals?

MelodicMutation · #1 (**permalink**) 07-18-2012, 02:27 AM

Anyone else been messing around with it?

Think there might be some cool applications if you have two different drums set up on each pedal. In any case, it's made my singles stronger and faster!

butter · #2 (**permalink**) 07-28-2012, 12:56 PM

Hey! George Kollias sort of does something like doubles. He explains his "swivel" technique as doing a double with the foot on the left, then switching and doing a double on the right, etc. but with the same foot, swiveling from side to side and adding in the other foot. It's really singles, but he thinks of it as doubles... I guess it works for him. I don't know whether you know all this, but just in case you don't.

Anyway, doubles can only help! I was playing with it for a while, but I haven't been practicing for months since I picked up guitar

gotta get back haha

**Der Trommler** · #3 (**permalink**) 07-28-2012, 05:22 PM

Guitar? OMG butter, say it isn't so dood!

MelodicMutation · #4 (**permalink**) 07-29-2012, 07:45 PM

Yeah, I definitely have heard of George Kollias and his swivel technique. I've had different opinions on it though from different teachers, some suggesting it and others saying that it can mess up your ankles. I can't say I've done a whole lot of research or anything, but the technical in general just seems a bit odd for the ankle joints, not so appealing. Haha.

Thanks for the recommendation though!

I know Thomas Lang has made some good uses of double stroke as well as every other stroke on his feet! Hahaha. That guys is a beast.

But I agree with Der Trommler, put down the guitar and get back to the drums! :P

butter · #5 (**permalink**) 08-02-2012, 05:44 PM

Haha I know! My drums are in my garage now when they used to be in the room next to mine, so I just play less out of convenience as well. I'm recording stuff, though, so needing a drum track for a song kind of facilitates practice a bit more.

I don't think it would mess up your ankles unless you did it wrong. I've never heard of that being a concern. Lang is amazing. There are a few drummers who come to mind when I think of rudiments on the feet... but I guess they don't actually come to mind because I can't remember their names. I'm losing my drumming trivia!! I need to be on this site more often for sure. I think Bill Ward maybe? Definitely Danny Carey.

MelodicMutation · #6 (**permalink**) 08-02-2012, 11:55 PM

Yeah, You'd probably be ok with technique, I would just advise caution with it.

Haha, yeah stick around these parts more often! Plenty of good conversations to be had!

butter · #7 (**permalink**) 08-03-2012, 04:08 PM

Definitely! I want this place to get lively like it used to be

I think I'm a bit unorthodox as far as foot technique goes, actually. I played heel down almost all the years I've been playing and only recently switched to heel up because once I get past 160bpm or so my ankles start to hurt, so I had to do something about that. I still play heel down most of the time, but not with fast stuff. I don't have a problem with it anymore.

MelodicMutation · #8 (**permalink**) 08-04-2012, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by butter

Definitely! I want this place to get lively like it used to be

I think I'm a bit unorthodox as far as foot technique goes, actually. I played heel down almost all the years I've been playing and only recently switched to heel up because once I get past 160bpm or so my ankles start to hurt, so I had to do something about that. I still play heel down most of the time, but not with fast stuff. I don't have a problem with it anymore.

That's really interesting! I hardly know any guys that try to play heel down.

I really feel heel up is the way to go though, for the fast stuff, especially when it comes to power.

hippy chip · #9 (**permalink**) 08-04-2012, 07:04 AM

My ankle can't move fast enough or hard enough to play heel down---do people actually play that way? I know several drummers, and have never seen any of them kicking with their ankle.

MelodicMutation · #10 (**permalink**) 08-05-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hippy chip

My ankle can't move fast enough or hard enough to play heel down---do people actually play that way? I know several drummers, and have never seen any of them kicking with their ankle.

A lot of guys definitely play heel down, you see it a lot in Jazz. Mainly because jazz doesn't require super hard strokes all the time. Playing rock, funk, most other genres, we depend on a strong bass drum, which I would suggest heel up for.

Hope that helps!