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Old 06-24-2005, 10:29 PM
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I was at the local drum shop the other day testing out some kits.. came across some really nice Maple Starclassics and a Yamaha Birch custom.. which kind of wood have you guys had experience with and what are your favorite aspects of them?

im sure other factors come into play but I found that birch has a stronger attack and is more direct. maple on the other hand is more open, it's louder and a bit brighter as well
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Old 06-24-2005, 10:45 PM
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I have a birch snare 14x5 and it has a kinda hi pitched sound to it.
Ive messed with it a lot and that seemed to be the best sound for what I play.

I would like to get one a little deeper and see what it sounds like.
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Old 06-27-2005, 05:54 PM
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birch > better for recording
maple > better to be played live

but I guess it's all personal preference as well
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:45 PM
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Here are the different descriptions of the woods that I found for drums. Maybe this will help you tell the differences. It's actually pretty interesting stuff that wood can make that much of a difference.

Albasia Falkata:
Woods like Albasia falkata are used as a substitute for American hardwood maple as well because it will finish extremely well and is cheap. To my ear it imparts a bright attack tone and is most appropriate as an inner layer.

Maple:
Maple is a general overall warm sounding product, it can reproduce frequencies of the drum fairly well across the spectrum. True slow growth old forest maple trees are most prized due to the narrow growth rings and straight grain. The wood resonates extremely well and the finishes are well accepted. Newer and reforested trees do not have as tight a growth ring habit and are not as prized as old growth timber. Solid shelled snare drums made of burled or Birdseye maple are very warm in overall tone but also impart a very bright attack. Maple is generally thought to have very even tone across the spectrum and is prized by many drummers.

Mahogany:
True mahogany from USA or Honduras will have about a 20% increase in low frequency resonance over the maple drum, mid and high frequencies will be the same from a reproduction point of view, but because the Mahogany has the 20% low end increase, the perceived tone is warmer. Certain deep red timbers from South East Asia are sold as a 'Mahogany', or 'Mahogany Finish' although they are not true Mahogany from USA or Honduras. It’s most likely called mahogany due either its common appearance (dark red) or due to the nature of the forestation being depleted and the stigma attached to it. Asian 'Philippine Mahogany' is often sourced from the endangered Dipterocarp forests of Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines. Dependant on the source tree the timber types are often known as Meranti, Lauan and Keruing. Hence the name Philippine mahogany. The species known as Khaya Nyasica or African mahogany are more plentiful yet still endangered and therefore, not plentiful at this time.

Birch:
Birch is a very dense tough wood, blond in color that tools well. It will have about a 10% loss in reproduction of low end compared to Maple and about a 20% increase in the high end, with the mid range remaining about the same, so the Birch kit will definitely be a “harder” and “brighter” sounding kit. Birch is derived from fast growth trees that are commonly large in diameter and finish reasonably well. Birch is often referred to as a naturally “EQ’d” drum set. This came from its popularity when used in recording studios where the attack portion of the sound was an important ingredient in recordings dating back to the late 60’s. It made it easier to get the drums to cut through the mix with minimal effort.

Poplar:
Poplar is derived from fast growing straight medium hardwood trees and is a less expensive alternative to Birch and Maple. Its finish can be somewhat green in color and is therefore used in the inner ply layers as substitute for more expensive and less plentiful woods. To my ear it takes on more of the tone of birch or mahogany than maple.

Basswood:
Basswood is a great less expensive hardwood that mimics the sound of Maple to some, mahogany to others. Yet it is more plentiful and gives the manufacturer a price advantage. It in many ways is an upgrade to luaan, or ramin and is often used as a core wood with a bit more of the lower register tone to it than realized out of maple. For this reason I tend to think of it more like mahogany than maple.

Lauan, Luaan or Luan:
By any spelling is a less expensive alternative to woods like basswood and “true” mahogany. To my ear it does not sound like true mahogany, but more like that of birch. This is a inexpensive filler type wood. It is in fact a species of endangered wood called “ramin” and or “meranti”. Actually, several other woods fall into this category too and are often referred to as "lauan" by various spellings. Lauan is “a coarse textured stringy wood with a wavy interlocked grain pattern, it has a pale creamy-red colour. Light but strong and durable it accepts stain and varnish well and can be polished to a high finish but remains somewhat porous. Red Lauan (Shorea negrosensis) is the mother tree of true Meranti. Natural inhabitants of the Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia, they are large trees; 61.5m (200 ft) in height with a trunk of up to 2m (6ft 6in) in diameter. Asian 'Mahogany' is often sourced from the endangered Dipterocarp forests of Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines. Dependant on the source tree the timber types are often known as Meranti, Lauan and Keruing. Hence the name Philippine mahogany.

So now, what's your favorite type of wood?
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Old 06-29-2005, 11:13 PM
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just wanted to thank you fall that info.
it showed me lot of things that I didnt about when it comes tselecting the right type of wood.
I will dently keep that handy for whenever I might get another kit.
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Old 07-06-2005, 06:55 PM
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good post.. where does beech fit into all of this? I've tested a Yamaha Beech Custom and loved it but I see that it is not on your list.
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Old 07-11-2005, 02:35 AM
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Beech customs are VERY nice drums...

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Re: birch vs maple


Did You Try Changing Heads ? You May Have A Single Ply Head On. Before You Go Through The Expense Of Getting A New Snare Try Changing The Heads And You May Want To Change The Snares On The Bottom Of The Drum. It's Just An Idea.


Good Luck Slingerland
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Old 09-26-2008, 11:50 PM
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Re: birch vs maple


Whats the word on bubinga? is it as incredible as its hyped to be? I saw a sweet lookin ddrum bubinga kit used, at sam ash. i almost bought it out of pure curiosity and wonder. lol.
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Re: birch vs maple


Going with the beech people on this. I love my Yamaha Beech Custom. People generally say that beech has a sound between maple and birch, so if your not sure, check it out!
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