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Old 03-27-2007, 10:00 PM
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New Wrap


I am in the process of rewrapping a Rogers kit black oyster pearl, the wrap will even go around the old wrap and the rims fitting, my question is should I take the old wrap off? Does it enhance the tone or does it make a difference?
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Old 03-28-2007, 04:18 AM
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According to a few sites: http://www.jamminsam.com/ http://precisiondrum.com/html/body_wrap.html you should take the old wrap off. Apparently, though, american made drums usually had the wrap glued all the way around the shell, as opposed to just glueing at the seams. If the rims and all the hardware fit with two layers of wrap, I'd say go for it.

Rogers were extremley well made drums, and I bet it would be an enormus pain in the buttocks to get the old wrap off.

Regarding any change in sound; I'm not sure, but an extra layer of wrap might deaden the tone a little, or maybe focus it. I really dont know, perhaps it will do nothing. Hope this helps!
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Old 03-28-2007, 06:42 AM
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It is likely the two wraps will deaden the drums sound.
I used a hairdryer to loosen the glue on my Tama Granstars, there were places where the wrap come off easy and others not. Once its soft it rubbed off with the fingers, may depend on what type of glue was used originally.
Some things i found when doing my kit, may be of help?
Measure everything twice and check with dry runs the wrap fitment before using glue, or tape if going that way.
The hoops need to fit on as well as the head so you have to allow for that below the bearing edge, another reason to remove the original wrap or you may have a lot of edge grinding to do.
I used easy to remove masking tape to write on and mark the inside of the shell where the old seam was, and also the batter end and reso end because when the grommet and badge in some cases are off and if the air hole is central drum, it's handy to know which way is up.
The old grommets i very carefully ground out with a burr on a dremel tool so not to mark the inside of the shell by using the screwdriver method, depends on grommet too how it goes. Check that the grommets are the correct length for the new wrap, i couln't get long enough ones for my kick drum ( discontinued) and due to the shell thickness ended up having to araldite in the longest air hole grommets i could find.
Be sure to use something to protect the bearing edges as you work on the drum and your new wrap.Drilling the holes out, i used a smal nail with a shapened end to indent and mark the lug holes from inside the shell - out, then used a hand drill using progressive drill bits from the wrap side, drilled in. The hand drill was good as it rotated slowly to make a good job. 50 holes in my kick drum.
Takes some time, but worth the effort to take your time. Probally took the most time to polish up all the chromework.

You'll be wrapped (pun) when it's done.

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Old 03-28-2007, 09:09 PM
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A little piece of wood came off one of the toms, should I get some wood filler
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:29 PM
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I just finished stripping the wrap off an old Ludwig bass drum. American drums were typically glued completely as opposed to some of the asian sets. I used a heat gun (carefully), and putty knife. Then stripper and sanding to remove the glue residue. If you broke off some of the wood ply, use some good wood filler to fill it in, then sand it smooth. It will be worth the effort to remove the wrap, I think.

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Old 03-28-2007, 11:21 PM
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Thanks, I decided it would be best to remove the wrap.
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Old 04-01-2007, 07:14 PM
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Just got done removing old wrap, the Rogers drums were glued all the way around but glad to have the old wrap off, I wrapped one of the toms with the double sided tape, I may glue the others if I dont like the tape
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:29 PM
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New Wrap


All that needs to be done now is to paint the hoops and put the inlay in and then I will take some pics. I am glad I took the old wrap off because I dont think I would have gotten them tuned as the floor tom just did fit.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:29 PM
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Is it done yet??????


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All that needs to be done now is to paint the hoops and put the inlay in and then I will take some pics. I am glad I took the old wrap off because I dont think I would have gotten them tuned as the floor tom just did fit.
It sounds to me like it may be just about picture time. I'm sure all of us that have followed this thread will be anxious to see the end result. As you've already found out, the hardest part about doing a recover job is deciding to actually do it. They really are not that hard to strip and clean. Care and attention to detail is obviously the most important part of the recover process. But it's all pretty easy, once you take the hardware off and plunge in. Great experience for you. Please take some pics for all of us. Thanks.
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:34 PM
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I posted one its in the gallery, not very big picture tho, I need to get better with the new camera, let me know what you think
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