[jamescharles]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmXkEeoZxw0

From Pat Petrillo's "Hands, Grooves & Fills"

[UPSTROKE]

Nah--I find K-Y jelly works better for me.

[Julio de Ipanema]

that is a good example but I prefer the way of Greg Bisonette and Weckl explain it..its more useful...u have it in da virtualdrummerschool.com if u want to check it

[lastditch]

yeah,Pat has a hard time conveying thoughts efficiently.It took him 3 minutes to explain the "motion" of his strokes.I'm sure it only gets better from there though.