[gospelwraith]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to get that thud noise from your bass drum that is perfect for double pedal.

[guss]

I use a pillow, some use two, there are evans pads out there and also I have seen blankets used too.

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[Paisano1978]

Buy an Evans pillow and the Evans EMAD system for the batter and resonant side. I have played evans heads for the last 10 years and just recently purchased this system. You'll spend about $100.00 for both heads, but brother it's worth it. I have never been more pleased with head sound and performance. It will sound like the kit is miced before you actually mic it.

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[CJDG]

Most of what you hear on radio as double pedal is triggered sounds that are tweaked by mixing. I agree that the EMAD system is nice... I use that system myself with a small portion of foam board that lightly touches both heads. Most attack, or slap, can be achieved by using a plastic, wood, or other hard material. A felt beater will soften the bass drum attack. If you are looking for more click in the bass drum impact you can tape a large coin to the inside of the bass drum head, or buy an impact badge, or just get creative.

If you stuff your drum with too much stuff you end up with a quiet bass drum. You could get a nice sound from a drum with very little muffling. Look at the Evans pillow for reference. I think that pillow is a little much for what I like but for some it is perfect.

Experiment... have fun with it.

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[guss]

I have heard about clicking, I have never seen it, is there a video of it?

[CJDG]

I don't have a video of it... Ummm... danmar makes kick plates.

The only problem I felt that kick plates presented is that over time you feel wear/tear on your ankles.

Many times with metal type drumming they default to triggering instead of trying to make an acoustic drum sound clicky. The easiest way to get more penetration out of your bass drum is to adjust the frequency range in a mixer for the bass drum beater impact. This range floats from bass drum to bass drum due to wood type, head type, etc... but it should be in a 2000-3000 khz range.

Still, if you were going to try clicking the bass use the tried and true method of taping a quarter or similiar coin to the INSIDE of the drum. Sometimes you can use a hard plastic. See what works best for you.

[skinslapper]

I agree with the others.

The danmar pads are great for attack and so are plastic beaters. I personally don't use any muffling with remo powerstroke 3 heads that only have one moongel ring and a standard falam pad.

You can hear the very metal result on my bands space below.

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[guss]

A oops I meant skin, I can't see the spaces (I personally know how where to find them).

[Thunderfoot]

Do you really want that typical hard double bass drum sound? Or are you prepared to go more Bonham and Baker in the tuning and almost no dampening?
Try and decide what your sound is first of all. What kit do you use?

[phillywillis]

Like others have said, that clicky, punch heard on recordings is mainly acheived through micing and mixing techniques. As for myself I am definately an advocate of NO EXTRA MUFFLING in my bass drum. I personally have found that with good tuning techniques and a good head, you can get a deep punchy sound out of your bass drum. I use an Aquarian Superkick II which already has a pretty hefty muffling ring built into it and I love the punch I get out of my bass drum.

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