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Old 03-29-2009, 06:53 PM
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Crossing Over


Hey guys.
When im riding my high hat, i usually dont cross over, i reach around with my
lead hand so my snare hand is more open for bigger strokes.

However, this takes away some endurance because i have to life my right arm
up a bit.
So basically what im asking is, how do you cross over and have big strokes on the
snare? It seems like every time i try it, my snare hand goes up to high and hit
my right hand's stick. Is the problem here my set-up, my technique? I was thinking
maybe on the snare hit i need to accent my high hat hit and bring my right arm up higher so it clears the way for my snare arm?

Also i would like to crossover because reaching around takes away the French Grip
option, which is the ideal grip for finger control.

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

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Old 03-29-2009, 08:28 PM
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Re: Crossing Over


Perhaps you may need to raise your hi hat or lower (Tilt) your snare drum a little, or both. Look at this video for example and let me know if it helps.

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Old 04-01-2009, 07:07 PM
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Re: Crossing Over


okay actually i got a little more used to crossing over the past few days, but
whenever im doing a sixteenth note snare beat, where the snare hits are on the
"e" or the "a" of the count, my sticks collide a lot of the time. Help?
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:06 AM
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Re: Crossing Over


Her's a little advise.
If you go to YouTube for free drumming lessons, Then look for the Moeller Method.

Right here:

YouTube - moeller technique

I pasted the site above. Look for cross over drumming. I hope this helps allot. Get back to us and let us know.
Try concentrating more on your workout than the tabs, you'll see that if you try to feel the rhythm, in stead of counting in your head is what's making you try too hard. Relax and have fun drumming instead of looking at it as a job.
Loosen up Man, by what your telling me is, you too uptight, and trying too hard.

Enjoy drumming, but don't get laxed. Find a balance.

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Old 04-02-2009, 08:38 AM
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Re: Crossing Over


It is possible that you are sitting too low on your throne also (in addition to having the high hat stand too low). This would cause you have your hands too close together.
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Old 04-05-2009, 11:18 AM
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Re: Crossing Over


It's a good question crispb7, one that we've all considered at some point. My current solution is to avoid crossing over by putting the hihat at the 11 o'clock position around the snare and by playing hi-hat patterns with the left hand (still a goal, not a reality).

In the past, when I was playing loud rock I raised the hihat to its upper limit. You need lots of distance between the hihat and snare if you're laying heavy on the side of loose hihats (playing with the wrist broken and fingers facing the ceiling) and doing rimshots all the time on the snare with wide arm movements.

At other times I tried the Charlie Watts method of not playing the right hand on the hihat at all when you make a snare stroke with the left (he lifts the right hand completely out of the way).

I think the advice of the others above was to build up finger strength in the left hand so you can play powerful strokes without raising your wrists high. That'll work but not for heavy metal unless you're heavily miked!

Here's a clip of Garibaldi, the best with 16th note patterns. He's got very little distance between the snare and hats. But he's not playing loud rock. Notice the bend in the right wrist, so he's coming over and down onto the top of the hihat. And notice that the snare is in close to his body so that the right hand is over top the left hand stick, not the left hand wrist. He also tilts the snare.

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