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Old 04-17-2009, 05:17 AM
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Tuning :(


Heya guys,



Ok so basically I'm looking to tune my drums in a new a funky way as to be honest at the moment they kinda sound like pots and pans- not that I dont like pots and pans, just Id like pots and pans to sound like pots and pans not my drum kit! - But every time I go to tune them it just never sounds right

So Im not sure if Im just going about it the wrong way, I've never had anyone show me or tell me, just followed the dvd I got with my Kit, but as u can see that hasnt really worked!! Btw way I've only been drumming properly for about 4 months now so I am a complete beginner! But hey Im always up for learning new things!

So if anyone knows how I should go about it properly please do tell, my kit deserves a nice sound!

Thanks a million,

Emma**
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:54 AM
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Re: Tuning :(


Emma,
Did u try tuning the bottom then top, side then other side, corner then other corner
on the drum head?
(If its hard to under stand just tell me.)
Because if you just go around the drum head tightening the tunners around in a circle,
It loosens up the opposite side of the head from where you are tunning.
Are you following this? (I've been drumming for 4 YEARS.)
Once your done with that, the heads should have a lot of rebound and should sound great.
Good Luck and Have fun!
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:43 PM
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Re: Tuning :(


Tuning is one of the hardest things to do. It's so fiddly and can take hours to get just the right sound.

First of all, you have to know what kind of sound you're going for (ie: what genre you play etc).

For example, I play thrash/death metal, but also play funk and prog rock on occasion, so I want my toms to be sound deep, resonant but dampened so there's not loads of over-ring, so I have Remo Pinstripe heads top and bottom and I tune each drum individually using a couple of guidelines I was taught by a good friend.

The batter head (the one you hit) is basically the first noise you will hear from the drum. The resonant head (bottom) is the afternote. So for example, if you hit a drum that has the batter head tuned higher than the resonant, you'll hear the pitch deepen after you've hit it. If on the other hand your resonant is tuned as tight as, or tigher than your batter, it'll produce a different effect.

When tuning a drum, it's best to start from scratch with your heads removed and starting from the highest pitched tom. Place the heads onto the drums one at a time, put the lugs on and finger-tighten. Once the lugs are finger-tight, push down on the centre of the head so that you can see the wrinkles around the edge of the head.

Tighten the head with a quarter-turn of the key <strong> across the drum</strong>. What this means is that you turn one lug a quarter turn, then the exact opposite lug a quarter turn and repeat so that you're tuning in a kind of star-shape across the drum. This will make sure all the lugs are tensioned equally. Once the wrinkles disappear, you have what I call the blank canvas. This is where you'll fine-tune your drums from.

Using the same quarter-turn across the drum technique, tighten the head until you have the right tone. Your choice of head is extremely important. It will affect every aspect of how your drums sound. For metal, you'll generally want something douple-ply or even hydraulic for a deep, dead, bassy sound. For jazz or softer music, you might want single ply, and for another type of music, another etc etc.

Play around with having batter tighter than resonant and vice versa and see what's best for you. You might think about contacting drummers you know or could come to see your kit and help you. Even one lesson with a professional drum tutor could do you the world of good in terms of know-how and technical knowledge.

I hope I've helped!

Keep playing, and let me know how you get on. Please get in touch if you need any more help; I'm contactable through my myspace or youtube accounts (below).


Take care mate
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Old 04-18-2009, 02:07 AM
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Re: Tuning :(


Emma I've been playing drums a long time over 40 years and came accross something that really works.It's called a Drum Dial you can go to youtube.com and type in drum tuning and you see how to tune your drums and you can type in drum dial tuning. I just used a Dial on my whole set the other day and they came out fine if you don't like how one drum sounds you can tighten or loosen whichever but if you don't know how to tune the Drum Dial is your answer.It sell for $59.00. GOOD LUCK SLINGERLAND
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Old 04-18-2009, 03:42 AM
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Re: Tuning :(


Her ya go--bookmark this site it's a life-saver and has everything you'd ever want to know about drum tuning!

Drum Tuning Bible

Good reading, and good luck!
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Old 04-18-2009, 09:17 AM
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Re: Tuning :(


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Emma I've been playing drums a long time over 40 years and came accross something that really works.It's called a Drum Dial you can go to youtube.com and type in drum tuning and you see how to tune your drums and you can type in drum dial tuning. I just used a Dial on my whole set the other day and they came out fine if you don't like how one drum sounds you can tighten or loosen whichever but if you don't know how to tune the Drum Dial is your answer.It sell for $59.00. GOOD LUCK SLINGERLAND

Yes, you can get a drum dial, but if you don't know how to tune a drum, it's important that you know how to do it properly, and wait to use the shortcuts like drum dials for when you're experienced.

Agreed with Jon though, the Drum Tuning Bible is great.

I would strongly advise you not to rely too much on gadgets! If you dont have that particular gadget one day you're not going to know what to do and it could ruin a performance.

Not to mention, Slingerland's post sounds very much like totally shameless spam-advertising to me. Does that look copied/pasted to anyone else?

Cheers

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Old 05-11-2009, 11:21 AM
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Re: Tuning :(


Mr. Mapex,
I've been drumming for over 50 years. The tuning Bible helps and so does the Drum Dial. I highly recommend it to those who are looking for that spectrum withing the tuning ranges. It's not for experienced drummer only.

Tuning by ear is ok if you know what your doing. I agree with Mr. Slingerland as for the Drum Dial does help immensely especially if you have lots of drums to tune. Beginners will be tuning for hours on end trying to tune by ear before they get the sound their looking for. At least the Drum Dial will help them get within the range.

The tuning bible is great for beginners but it does not give the drummer the entire picture of tuning.

We are not spamming, just trying to help out those in need of suggestions. Bashing doesn't help anyone.

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Old 05-11-2009, 12:39 PM
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Re: Tuning :(


My only response will be to point out that I wasn't bashing anyone.
Slingerland's post looked like an ad, and I said so.

If I'm wrong, allow slingerland to correct me and I'll apologise if need be.

As for your technical advice, it's perfectly valid. Everything's subjective and personal with drums.

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Old 05-11-2009, 03:20 PM
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Re: Tuning :(


I was referring to the Drum Dial being bashed, as useless unless it's used by a pro. I'm aware of the fact that Mr. Slingerland can speak for himself, as I am.

I was simply stating a fact.

No grunts here my friend and happy drumming.
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Old 05-11-2009, 04:56 PM
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Re: Tuning :(


This is SLINGERLAND I was NOT running an ad for any drum dial company I was telling someone how to get their drums in tune without driving themself crazy, since a drum dial can and will do that and since he had no idea of tuning a drum he would probably spend hours trying it by ear.
You should try it before you pass judgement I didn't think it was so good either until I tried it and I'm playing 42 years.
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