[Molala2]

Hello everyone,

i took on a drum tutor/teaher at the end of december last year, and had been having 4 lessons per month. Due to some reasons i finally decided to cut the lessons and find a new tutor to go on again. What i would like to know is, if i want to specialise in pop/rock/metal drumming, how much more and what i have yet to learn? here are some that i have learned and some that i KNOW i havent learned yet.

Covered topics:

1. Accent (hand)
2. Left leg (hi hat) and Right leg (bass drum) coordination
3. Hands and legs coordination
4. right leg - heel down, heel up (tight and/or ankle), slide techni
5. 8th hi hat groove with 16th note insertion
6. 16th hi hat groove
7. 8/16th groove on ride with strong/back beat on hi hat pedaling
8. sub-division 4-8-16-32th
9. moving your left/right hand off the hi hat during hi hat groove
10. stick wiping (now at speed 116 bpm@16th)
11. double stroke (now at speed 96 bpm@16th)


Not covered topics:

1. triplet
2. shuffle
3. swing
4. fill in
5. playing incorporating crash cymbals
6. rudiment
7. double bass

thanks a lot....i am pretty frustrated

[dtxtremeiiispecial]

I'm not answering your question the way you want, but many drummers, even the very best, keep learning. It doesn't matter how good you are as much as that you're continuing to learn.

You don't say why you're switching tutors, but evidently a switch is needed as you move on down the road. That's very common. You've got a good list of things to work on.

Are you playing songs with a group or garage band? If you play the songs well, you're nearing performance level.

Sounds like you're a worker -- you'll get there.

[Molala2]

thanks for your compliment

i am not currently engaged to any bands. If i want to I am confident that i can write up some simple rock groove and simple fill-in and bridges, i just dun have the time to do that...considerint that i have to spend 30 minutes to train up my left ankle, 30 for right right ankle, 30 for stick wiping, 60 for double stroke, and 30 for subdivison...so even off the drum i have to spend 3 hours to practice. i kinda have to finish these topics to a level to my satisification, to a level that i only need to spend 5 mintues everyday to "keep" them before i can squeeze time for real music playing..

hopfully some day i could enjoy playing music rather than pure technic...

[dtxtremeiiispecial]

That a good hope, and probably the ultimate goal. Many extreme technical skills are never used in playing music. Drums are used to help play songs and music.

[xxvenom13xx]

If you want to build up on your rudiments go to Vic Firth's website and to their Snare Rudiments page. It helps a lot man(:

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[deanc54]

Hey Molala2!

Welcome to the forum! If anyone can help you, the folks who run this site are your best bet. They are some of the most knowledgable, likeable, and instructional drummers around. While frustration may be just an inherent part of learning the drumming skills you strive to aquire, you have to ask yourself the question 'Why am I playing the drums'? Do you want to perform live with a band, or is drumming just something you wanted to do? Do you hope to attain riches and fame? What?.. Your post says nothing about just having fun. Alot of people pick up an instrument because they want to learn the technical skills to play, but I think most just want to have some fun, and do something they always wanted to. The majority of musicians I know have a full time day job, and try to squeeze music in where they can. For myself, after a 40+ year hiatus from my drumming, I picked it up again because I remembered how much fun it is to just play. I'll never get rich from it, and I don't aspire to be famous (just the opposite actually). I struggle each day with maintaining what skills I have in order to keep up with the talented muscians that allow me to play with them. I set a goal to try to either better the skills I have, or learn something totally new. I make alot of mistakes, but I accept the fact that I will always make mistakes and shun the urge to get frustrated. I also accept that I will always be an artist in progress, and never be done learning. Last but not least, I have fun. The fun part keeps me drumming and itching to sit down at my set to have some more fun each day! If you aren't having fun, you are robbing yourself of the experience. Try to make the fun part a priority, and the rest will most likely fall into place. Looks to me like you are making good progress..try not to be so hard on yourself!!!

[Tainojim]

Molala2 what you need to do is try not to practice so hard and enjoy what you do and not look at it as a task.

What your trying to accomplish is for you. So no tutor can help you with this dilemma you're to accomplish.

If you try reversing they way you practice, it may come to you in another form. Get out of that rut before it eats you up. Then go back to the path of practice you're trying to get accomplished. Sounds to me like you need a break before it breaks you.

So changing your practice habits may help you.