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Old 08-11-2009, 02:25 PM
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Drum Mics


There are four different mics suggested by the Sound Pros. Whether your on a high or low budget, you can do the best with what ever you have. Still the best approach is still trial and error depending on the acoustics of the room and mic placements.

SNARE:
Top - Shure SM57
Bottom - Shure SM57, AKG 452, Neumann KM 184

TOMS:
Sennheiser 421, AKG 414, Shure SM 57, Blue 'The Ball" (any model)

BASS
(Kick Outside Mics):
Preferred Mics - AKG D112, AKG D12, EV RE-20
Other Mics - Blue "The Ball".

For particular Kick recordings, some prefer one mic inside the res head and another outside at the same time.
INSIDE: Sennheiser 421
OUTSIDE: Blue "The Ball" or Neumann FET47.

OVERHEAD: AKG 452, Neumann KM184, AKG 414, Blue - lots of choices.

ROOM MICS: Neumann U67, Blue (lots of choices), AKG 414, or 2 matched condenser mics.

The most important issue about drum recordings is getting the best mics you can afford and Pre-Amps. If you get a decent mixer, they should provide you with good built-in pre-amps.
Mic placement should be about 4 to 6 inches from the drums and the overheads not closer than 2 feet above.

DRUM MICS - WHOLE KIT:
Kick - 1 inside
Snare - Top and Bottom
Toms - 1 mic on top of each.
Hi-hat - 1 mic on top
Overhead - Stereo Mics
Room Mics - Stereo or Mono
Ride Cymbal - Optional
Overhead - Stereo matched pair condenser any brand

5 Mic Setup:
Kick - 1 mic inside
Snare - Top & Bottom
Overhead - Stereo
matched pair condenser any brand

4
Mic Setup:
Kick - 1 mic inside
Snare - 1 mic Bottom only
Overhead - Stereo matched pair condenser any brand
3 Mic Setup:
Kick - 1 mic inside

Overhead - Stereo matched pair condenser any brand

ROOM ACOUSTICS:
Packing Blankets - GOBOS - Insulation

Notes: Inside the kick is for those who have a hole in the bass res head. Otherwise place the mic about 4-6 inches in front of the kick drum.

Overhead - Stereo matched pair condenser any brand also used for ambiance of the room

Good Luck and Happy Drumming.
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Re: Drum Mics


The Shure Beta 52 is another good kick drum mic that delivers very good low end.
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Re: Drum Mics


Yup the Beta 52's are good mics. One of my sons favorites. He's an Audio Engineer.

These are all suggestions from the pros. Even the 52's.

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What would I need to connect the mics? Because I can't just buy the mics, and they miraculously work, right?
Is there like a box or something?
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What would I need to connect the mics? Because I can't just buy the mics, and they miraculously work, right?
Is there like a box or something?

You will need a mixer that provides 48volts of phantom power and an interface to connect to your computer.

You'll also need a program that sees the interface adapter.
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Any suggestions? Not too expensive, but just one that'll work.
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Re: Drum Mics


I agree with the last post, been recording drums a long time, They take the most time of any instrument to get right, but there’s no wrong mic or technique. In fact proper mic placement is more important then number of mics and quality of mics. Experiment …that’s the key, I have herd amazing recordings with just two or three mediocre mics. But all his mic choices are “ so to say industry standards”
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Re: Drum Mics


As I have mentioned before, Led Zepplin did most of their recordings with only three mics on the drums.

And yes, placement is extremely important.

Read original post #1.

The second most important is mixing.

Mic brand is second to none, but the sound quality makes a huge difference when dealing with Impedance Match, which brings us up to another level in Studio Recordings.

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Re: Drum Mics


Hi everybody, new guy here.

My current job is as a sound engineer at the Disneyland Resort and I also agree that although there are certain mics for certain applications, you can use really anything. We own alot of mics at the resort and I've gotten a chance to use most of them, but lots of times I've come to the conclusion that it's what you plug into that counts the most.

Which is why I'm on the fence about how to record drums. I've recorded drums through big consoles (Yamaha M7's, the smallest I've used would be a Yamaha O1v) and I also own the Tascam 8-in USB interface going into a Mac. As an engineer, I prefer the console - it's by far the easiest way to get a good sound because everything is right there at your fingertips. Going into a computer means menus and then you're suddenly strapped with the overall power of the computer - if it's weak, eq-ing will take processing power, let alone applying any effects. So if you're gonna do it by computer, get the most power you can afford and learn to live with some limitations. If you can get a hardware based recorder (like an old Tascam DA88 linked up to a Yamaha O1v), you're good to go right there - you just have to deal with old technology and the possibility that you won't be able to find any tapes!

Sometimes I think it would just be easier to hire somebody's studio to record stuff. then you don't have to worry about it!
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Re: Drum Mics


I use six microphones. One Sennheiser e-602 in each of the bass drums, two Audio Technica 30's for snare top and between toms 1&2, Oktava 012-01 electret condensers between toms 3&4 and 5&6.
I have obtained wonderful results with inexpensive dynamic microphones as well.
The Shure SM-57 is the industry standard, so you'll not go wrong with those. Many other things come into play as well, such as room size and acoustics, mic placement, phasing, EQ and effects processing etc. Experiment. See what works best for your situation and do not break the bank in search of the perfect equipment setup. Every knob is a virtual "suck" knob, which can be turned up, regardless of expense. Remember when recording: Garbage in, garbage out. You cannot always "fix in the mix".
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