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Old 02-04-2008, 11:02 PM
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Danmar Slam Patch!


I got a Danmar Slam Patch a while ago to make my kicks sound more metally. Have been through 2 different double pedals and I come across the same problem. When I use the plastic side of the beaters they bounce and rattle on the slam patch, instead of creating a straight THUD sound that a bass drum should make. It sounds like you were to take 2 plastic bottles and bang them together quickly. This only happens when I play certain ways. If I kick the drum and release the pedal quick enough it doesnt happen but If I kick and follow through and plant the beater in the head, it rattles.

What can I do about this? Without removing the patch.
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:18 PM
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it combines a high-grade aluminum alloy playing surface with a thin, self-adhesive rubber backing
Should be perty obvious. plastic and aluminum/any metal don't make thud sounds.
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:40 PM
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Re: Danmar Slam Patch!


Well I didnt mean 'thud' exactly. I know how the patch is supposed to make it sound and I can get that sound its just the clattering of the beaters and the patch. I want to know if theres something I can do about it.
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Re: Danmar Slam Patch!


Different beaters might help???
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:09 PM
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Re: Danmar Slam Patch!


The danmar slam patch is esentially a piece of plastic you stick to your drum head to make it sound like your hitting it with plastic beater. So hitting plastic with plastic is alwyas going to give you rattles. You're either going to have to use felt beaters, or I'd suggest replacing the pad with a thick canvas style patch. You should get the old metal thud with your plastic beater (like I do) and then turn them around for some versaltility.
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Re: Danmar Slam Patch!


Is it cracked at all? ...somehow
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Re: Danmar Slam Patch!


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I got a Danmar Slam Patch a while ago to make my kicks sound more metally. Have been through 2 different double pedals and I come across the same problem. When I use the plastic side of the beaters they bounce and rattle on the slam patch, instead of creating a straight THUD sound that a bass drum should make. It sounds like you were to take 2 plastic bottles and bang them together quickly. This only happens when I play certain ways. If I kick the drum and release the pedal quick enough it doesnt happen but If I kick and follow through and plant the beater in the head, it rattles.

What can I do about this? Without removing the patch.
The whole purpose of the Danmar metal patches is to increase the click sound of the beater... You should be using the felt side of the beater to get this click sound. Anything harder will rebound off quickly and cause this problem you are describing. Another thing to consider is that all of the rebound you are getting is energy wasted since it isn't being transfered to the kick. This will decrease your volume
toward whatever audience you have.

The felt beater should provide you enough "click" and allow enough transfer of energy through the patch to the drum head. Remember you are hitting a thick metal disk.. and a layer of foam.

I used these patches for a time when recording and found very quickly that they
increased fatigue in my feet. I had to remove the metal patches to save damaging my feet.

There are other methods to get the click sound you are asking. Try taping quarters to the inside of the drum head, or a credit card sized piece of plastic in the same area. Shoot go hogwild and experiment with lots of fun stuff there... aluminum pie pans, foil, CDs, soda cans, etc...

If you are going to mic the bass drum to get this "click" sound I think it rests in the 2-4khz range... So play around with your eq on the bass mic and you should be able to get the beater impact to come through.

Another thing to note: Many of the kick sounds you hear with that "click" sound might actually be triggered drums. So due to the wonders of recording engineers you have layered sounds instead of the natural bass drum sound.
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