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Old 02-02-2010, 07:00 PM
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I'm going to answer you here, Jovan.

First, you're not the only one looking to find out about Asama drums. I have found some others,
and these people have more questions than answers. There's not much information out there. I have reached some conclusions, but I can't prove much.

Second, I believe that Asama Percussion was a Japanese business. One of the largest volcanos in Japan is named Asama, and lots of things are named after it, like ships and bullet trains. Why not a percussion company? Can't prove it tho.

Third, Asama sold drums, drum synthesizers, and music synthesizers. But I don't know if Asama was a manufacturer, distributor, or and off-brand for another manufacturer. There were also Asama guitars, but I don't know if Asama Percussion made those. One guy owned two Asama guitars, and he was asking his forum if Asama was a manufacturer or a brand. No one replied.

The Japanese Drum Museum offered some information which may explain this, or may not:
Paraphrasing, it says that in 1961 Pearl built a huge factory to meet the worldwide demand for drums due to rock 'n roll. The drumsets were cheap and bore the name of the distributor, namely: "Maxwin, CB-700, Crest, Revelle, Revere, Lyra, Majestic, Whitehall, Apollo, Toreador, Roxy, Coronet, and others -- over 30 brands in all! Tama, also known as Star and Hoshino back then, also followed suit . . . . many of the models were sold under many different names or badges." So, could Asama have been one of these distributors or brands? Maybe so. Not sure.

In 1962 the Hoshino Gakki company in Nagoya, Japan established TAMA Seisakusho Inc. and started to manufacture drums, guitars, and amps. These drums were not called TAMA. I don't know what they were called from 1962-1964. Starting in 1965 they were called STAR drums. And starting in 1974 they were called TAMA. What were the 1962-1964 drums called? Wish I knew.

But from 1974-1977 TAMA drums made "stencil kits." In other words, they made the same generic drums but put lots of different names on them. Could one of these names be Asama? And since TAMA Seisakusho also made guitars at this time, might they have named them Asama?

Given the similarity of TAMA and Asama drum fittings noticed by yourself and be the woman mentioned below, it is possible or even likely that Asama drums are one of the TAMA stencil kits. The TAMA stencil kits were not sold in Japan but were shipped to the USA and Europe mostly. None of the TAMA Seisakusho Inc. drums were sold in Japan before 1980. Maybe that's why you're finding this kit in Macedonia with the name Premier on it. I also saw a kit for sale online that was called Hohner Asama.

I found a picture of an Asama drumset online. The page is written in a foreign language -- don't know which one. But the title on the page is:"Batterie Asama idem TAMA." I'm pretty sure "batterie" means drumset. Can someone decipher the rest? Also, check the badge. I believe this set is for sale in Europe, so now we're looking at a TAMA Asama kit available in Europe. I think. This page is at: Batterie Asama idem TAMA Instruments de musique Oise - leboncoin.fr

Maybe the best thing I have for you is this next page. A woman has purchased what she believes to be an Asama kit. She was attracted to it because the fittings look like TAMA fittings, and she loves TAMA.
This page has GREAT PHOTOS, GREAT CLOSEUPS! Vintage Drum Museum • View topic - ASAMA drumkit - help needed with identification

Now, go to this page, scroll down, and check the badge and drums on this Asama kit. Drums My Life - drum forum, drummers community - View topic - Asama Percussion?

And if you were in the TAMA Seisakusho Inc. factory stenciling different names on drumsets, why not name one Asama? The volcano is a famous Japanese landmark about 150 miles from the factory.

As far as Premier goes, it may be that Asama drums were distributed to whoever wanted to sell them in Europe and America. Maybe Premier sold them as a second line. It sounds possible, but I have no idea whether it's true.

So the seller may not be lying to you; Premier may have sold those drums. But, of course, I really don't know.

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Old 02-03-2010, 11:08 AM
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DAAAAAANNNNGGgg!!! someone did their homework!
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Old 02-04-2010, 04:23 AM
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hey man thanks for all that information you gave.
I checked the web site you gave to me and those are the badges. they are the ones.
now..what Brand are my drums.. Tama?? or.. :? write and thankms again!
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:37 AM
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I can't prove for sure what brand your drums are, but here's what I believe.

Since both you and the woman I mentioned say that the Asama drum fittings look like TAMA drum fittings, I believe that Asama drums were "stencil drums" made by TAMA sometime between 1974 and 1977.

I think TAMA exported all these drums to Europe and America. I believe that drum companies in Europe would buy Asama drums as a second line of drums to sell. Sometimes the European drum companies would put their own names on the drums -- like Premier or Hohner or whatever. (I saw a picture of Hohner Asama drums on the Internet.)

So, I'm guessing that Premier bought Asama drums, put the Premier name on them, and sold them as Premier drums. But they are really Asama drums made by TAMA.

I believe your drums are TAMA drums made by TAMA Seisakusho Inc., which is owned by the Hoshino Gakki company, which still makes TAMA drums today. But I can't really prove it.

Wish I could tell you for certain. But I believe it.
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Old 02-04-2010, 10:33 AM
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With all the industrial espionage that went on in the 70's, I'm not surprised.

I worked 9 years repairing Ford Motor Company audio Systems. All the parts were from other countries. Even the units themselves were assembled in Mexico, Philippines, Germany and Columbia.

I've seen a stove made by the infamous tool company from Germany, Bosch.
Lots of American brand names have been placed as labels for imported goods.
Even it it wasn't made here, it's got the name from here.

Here are some good examples:
The Cadmium-Ion Battery comes from China. When it goes dead and you can't recharge it anymore, what do you do with it?

Meanwhile back at the ranch:
We strip the steel out of the Cars and Rail Roads. Ship it to China.

Who gets the better deal?

And the U.S. still owes China 3 Trillion Dollars?

Bottom line, we've all been horn swaggled.
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:59 PM
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Hmm i think that too. At least now i know that my drums are pretty good...
so if u have facebook add me (jovan.stojanov1) we weill chat and those stuff
If you want of course.. And Thanks soo much for these informations and everything else
thanks from the bototm of my hearth.
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:06 PM
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Tainojim,
I wish we would MAKE it here, and THEN put our name on it.
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:26 PM
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I don't Facebook, Twitter, Chat, or anything else like that.
Reason, I don't like to expose myself to the "World Wide Web".

Many people have been harmed by it.
In today's News:
A new law has come into consideration as far as some dumb adolescents sending naked pics of each other to each other. So "Big Brother" is trying to determine if this should be handled as the 1st amendment or as child pornography here in the U.S. and other countries as well .

I always say "Do what you say and Say what you do. Honesty is the best policy.

I've got nothing to hide and nothing to expel. Being on neutral ground is the best for me.
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I'll try to reach you on Facebook, Jovan. I already tried once, but I'm not sure I had the right
Jovan Stojanov. I'll try again.

I just started my Facebook page a week ago, so I'm not very good at it yet, but I'll try.

Could you fix me up with some hot Macedonian chicks? I'm only 60.

So let's chat.

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Old 02-09-2010, 02:09 AM
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There's a post called "My Asama Kit" on the Pearl Drum Forum from 2004 from a kid named Chino. He says that he just bought a brand-new 2003 Asama kit (BLINKIIN' WHAT?), and he's got plenty of pictures! He said he had to wait 3 weeks to get his kit. This kid is ROCKIN' MY CASBAH!

A NEW ASAMA KIT FROM 2003?! Well, just throw me in the woodchipper, Sally. OK, pictures coming, I hope.

My Asama kit - Pearl Drummers Forum

That'll do 'er. Now, in the very first picture you can clearly see an Asama badge on the snare. If you need convincing, take a look at the HUGE BOLD Asama badge on the red drums previously posted in this thread. The badge colors are different on this new set, but the patterns are the same. There's a second Asama badge on a paper label on the snare stand. You can see it in the picture with all the pedals. The design on the label is the Asama badge, and you can read one letter after the badge design -- "A." No colors -- just black and white.

I say the metal badge on top os the bass drum is the same badge. You may need some convincing on this one, but if you have looked at the label on the red drums and noted the shape and the patterns of the colors, I think you can see the same shape and patterns in that badge (though not the same colors).

Can this really be a new kit in 2003? Looks like an older design, doesn't it? Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit poppin' L.A. Rounders chuggin' Tequila.

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